This is just a personal essay, written one Easter Sunday.
For me, atheism means not a disbelief in any god in particular.
Atheism instead means a disbelief in all gods, just as many disbelieve in fairies or goblins.
This is not to say that I would still disbelieve in gods in the event of good evidence to the contrary; but that is not really different from saying I would also believe in fairies and goblins, should there be good evidence for such magical folk.
In this way, my atheism differs from what I understand to be “agnosticism”.
It is not that I do not know whether gods exist or not.
For me, it is not an open question.
I positively disbelieve in gods, and I have never encountered any good evidence that they exist.
I believe that every god I could ever hear about in human history, and there have probably been thousands, to not exist; that each and every god is nothing more than a human construct; and that just because someone believes in a god does not mean that god exists.
In one curious way, my atheism is not dissimilar to someone else’s monotheism.
I disbelieve in all the gods I could have ever encounter; the monotheist believes the same, but with one exception.
One could be glib and say that plus-or-minus-one is nothing more than a rounding error.
However, there is the more important point that the typical Christian or Muslim invariably disbelieves in gods as readily as a typical atheist, and often does so with less thoughtfulness.
So if I am an atheist, what sort of atheist am I?
I do not think of myself as a militant atheist, but I suppose few actually do. It is the sort of phrase which one applies to other people, and not yourself. I certainly would not want to impose my atheism on someone else, and nor would I go out of my way to argue or debate with a non-atheist. I have known people derive great comfort from their religious views, and I do not wish to be the sort of person who wants to take such comfort away.
However, I derive great comfort from my atheism.
This does not stop various monotheists, usually Christians of one kind or another, wanting to convert me. There are even people who pray for me, which is both nice and rather pointless.
I am at ease with a godless universe and with a detailed understanding of natural and human history which has no need whatsoever for divine planning or intervention. The earnest people who wish to take this away from me may mean well, but they are offering only constraints where my curiosity and sensibilities otherwise would range freely.
To start believing that any part of the universe or any course of human conduct can be explained only by divine agency would constitute a narrowing of my horizon; it would seem artificial and contrived, and I suspect I could not keep it up, or indeed keep a straight face.
My atheism dates back more-or-less to university days, twenty years ago. I do confess to a brief flirtation with Christianity when I was about nineteen, but it lasted only a week or two.
There are two bases to my atheism. The first addresses the claims of “natural religion”; the second is my response to the contentions of “revealed religion”.
In terms of natural religion, I can never get the hang of thinking about the universe with gods in it. Nothing seems to require a godly explanation. For example, evolution by means of natural selection is capable of explaining natural history. Though it is a complex theory, and one which can seem counter-intuitive, development by random mutations and the survival of the fittest is at least capable of being true, given a sufficiently long time-scale.
Arguments from creation and from design, on the other hand, seem to just trigger more questions. It seems to me that there was no need to posit a creator or a designer if there was any merit in evolutionary biology.
Similarly, and as far as I can tell, the existence of the universe, including the solar system and this planet, also does not need reference to any gods.
Such godlessness, of course, does not make the universe and life on earth any less wonderful and beautiful.
Indeed, freed from the requirement that everything has to be explained by reference to what some god allegedly did, one can have the sheer thrill of intellectually trying to work out answers where there are none prescribed.
A universe explained by a god seems rather drab in comparison.
However, my secular view of the universe would count for nothing if “revealed religion” was true.
My understanding is that revealed religion means that there has been some intervention in earthly affairs which demonstrates as a fact the existence of a particular god and endorses the truth of a particular religious form.
As someone who studied history at university, and whose day jobs (as lawyer and journalist) now involve the intense assessment of documentary and other evidence, such a prospect is exciting.
The strident assertions of Dawkins and Sagan would have no efficacy at all if it could be shown that there was good evidence of divine agency; that there had been some evidence which could only be explained by there being a god at work.
Christianity, for example, makes a number of historical claims for their god revealing itself in human affairs. Many of the Christian claims are familiar in modern culture: the virgin birth and nativity of Jesus, the miracle-working and exorcisms of the ministry of Jesus, and the resurrection of Jesus after his execution.
And this is where I have my greatest problem with Christianity.
I cannot see why the bundle of stories and historical texts which provide the basis of Christian belief are inherently more plausible than any other cycle of ancient legends and scripts. Many Christians seem to believe that their religion has an inherent priority over other religions; that one has to accept the historical basis of Christian claims, whilst they deny the historical validity of the claims of other religions.
However, I have never understood why Christianity, which is essentially a Mediterranean-based religion known only to a minority of the world for most of its history, and indeed a more recent religion than some other world religions, has any inherent priority over other religions.
There is no reason why the badly-documented historical claims of Christianity are likely to be any more true than the claims of any other religion.
And, in turn, there is no reason why any other supposedly “revealed” religion is any more true than Christianity.
As far as I am aware, there is no event in either natural or human history which can be explained only by the design or intervention of a god, either in the Christian tradition or otherwise.
Take, for example, the Easter ‘resurrection’ stories in the New Testament. We are told that after his public execution, that there was a public resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth. This would have been an extraordinary event. However, the evidential base is not at all compelling.
The earliest version of Mark stops abruptly with an empty tomb and its discovery by people being instructed to say nothing about it. Acts has Saul/Paul being converted on the road to Damascus after encountering Jesus by means of a ray of light and a voice from heaven.
The later Gospel accounts, written down decades after the supposed event, add more detail, most of it inconsistent between the different Gospels.
Fairly straightforward points, such as who visited the tomb, what was found there, who was told next (if anyone), and who Jesus appeared to and with what effect, are all hopelessly confused. And, for an alleged physical resurrection, the ascension of the physically-resurrected Jesus figure upwards into heaven seems at best implausible.
Of course, the resurrection and ascension are plausible if one has faith. I understand faith to mean a certainty in something being true when there is no evidence otherwise. (Some people even seem to have faith that something is true even if the evidence is actually to the contrary.)
It may well be that some people can look at the evidence, such as it is, and conclude that the resurrection was a historical fact. They are free to do so, and the “who moved the stone” tradition is fondly invoked by many Christians; but there may be a problem in them adopting this approach.
As Paul himself recognised in his first letter to the Corinthians, Christianity ultimately must be a religion of faith. This is even the case in respect of the purported resurrection of Jesus, and Paul’s letter may indeed be the earliest evidence we have of the belief in a resurrected Jesus.
However, many Christians seem to want to know better than Paul, and so wish to say that a belief in the resurrection requires no faith at all.
In my own personal judgment – and I am fully aware of the “who moved the stone” tradition – there is nothing in the Easter story which actually requires a belief in the physical resurrection of Jesus as a historical event.
Indeed, as someone who admires the Gospels both as historical and literary documents, the post-resurrection narratives are disappointing and unconvincing.
It is clear that the Gospel narratives are a consequence of a belief in some form of resurrection of Jesus, rather than the evidential basis of the belief.
And there is no need to deny that the earliest Christians believed in a resurrection of some kind, physical or otherwise; there are religious enthusiasts in every age, most of whom are readily dismissed by Christians and atheists alike.
The fact of religious enthusiasm does not prove any historical fact, other than that enthusiasm exists.
To be a Christian thereby requires a leap of faith, just as it is required of any supporter of any “revealed” religion.
A wise Christian surely knows this, and will value any exposition of what can be shown without faith as an index as to what the effect their faith has on their beliefs.
As such there is actually no real tension between the Christian and the atheist: the former can use the latter as showing what difference their faith has to their view of the universe and human affairs.
However, I would like to invite any Christian (or Muslim or believer in any religious form) to try and see the universe as an atheist does: to have a sense of wonder in respect of both natural phenomena and ancient writings which is not easily satisfied by the conventional answers of others; and to enjoy the sheer rapture of working out things for oneself, with an evidence-based approach following one’s curiosity.
There may well be gods, fairies, and goblins; atheism and scepticism does not mean not admitting the ultimate possibility of any such things.
But you may well find that you do not need to believe in such things to understand and be awed by the universe; and you may also find that you do not need gods to appreciate what great (and awful) things humans can achieve by themselves.
So, if you have never tried it, do give atheism a chance.
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Thank you for your thoughtful post. I am glad you decided to publish it. First let me declare myself
I am a Methodist, but I have never been able to subscribe to 10 impossible things before breakfast. Nor do many of my fellow Methodists and several theologians I know
My husband is an atheist and takes the view that man created God. He considers himself to be an atheist Methodist because he subscribes to the teaching of Jesus (values etc) but does not believe in God
In my book there is one essential which many atheists and people of faith can subscribe to I think
"Love your neighbour as yourself"
All else follows I think
For me faith has nothing to do with belief in impossible things. It is faith that the power of love will overcome the power of evil in the end. This is the message I regularly hear preached from the pulpit. Even today there was no mention of impossible things except in an allegorical sense
I commend Don Cupitt's writings on this subject and his definition of God as being "the personification of one's relationship with one's own existence"
That definition allows for all possibilities and is inclusive of atheists and people of "faith" alike.
I also recommend http://www.sofn.org.uk
Thank you again for your thoughtful piece
'However, I would like to invite any Christian (or Muslim or believer in any religious form) to try and see the universe as an atheist does: to have a sense of wonder in respect of both natural phenomena and ancient writings which is not easily satisfied by the conventional answers of others; or enjoy the sheer rapture of working out things for oneself, with an evidence-based approach following one’s curiosity.'
I am an atheist. But some of the most intelligent, rigorous, thoughtful, 'evidence based' researchers and writers I know have faith.
So really they don't need your encouragement to do those things you are encouraging them to do.
Atheists are just as capable as religious people, as you know, to ignore evidence, be superstitious, be cruel, ignorant etc.
For me, faith and atheism are not arguments against one another. They are different realms of consciousness.
I do not have access to the realm of 'faith' just as people of faith do not have access to the realm of 'atheism'.
I have absolutely no idea who is better off or more intune with the universe.
Happy Easter.
I read The God Delusion cover to cover, looking for Dawkins opinion on what is the nub of spirituality, namely that something extraordinary happens when we pray (or in my case, meditate). Maybe it's *something*, maybe it's nothing more than self-induced euphoria, but this extraordinary sense of transcedence through prayer is a universal human experience. Let's make a sweeping statement and say Athiests are smarter than your average bear; so why always go for the softer targets like literal interpretation of ancient text, the silliness of the dogma, the corruption and evident lack of compassion of religious hierarchies, the misuse of 'faith' as an excuse for homophobia and misogyny? Anyone with a lick of sense knows that stuff is indefensible nonsense. I'd love to see a Richard Dawkins, PZ Myers or David Allen Greene tackle the meat of the arguement and explain something to me please; what is this mad stuff that happens when I meditate?
Thanks for these thoughts, David. I'm sure the coincidence between them and my own is not solely as a result of our shared upbringings in Brum.
And Fiona, the answer to your question is; 'Your brain working. Nothing else.'
allanw - even on a basic physiological level that's ridiculous.
Meditation involves not only the brain but also the body and the air that is breathed and whatever surface is being sat/lain/stood upon, and gravity, and heat and light and...
to reduce everything to the 'brain' is not 'clever'. Even many atheists would say that!
Excellent post David.
Fiona: Meditation does cause measurable changes in the body and has been studied scientifically (you need to root around a bit because there is a lot of rubbish but here is a respectable meta-analysis http://www.epilepsiezentrum.uniklinik-freiburg.de/medmed/live/literatur/MBSR_MA_JPR_2004.pdf).
This is a good example of what David speaks about in his post - if you throw away the mumbo jumbo goddidit explanations and start looking at what is really happening the reality turns out to be considerably more interesting. Your brain is an incredible thing, it constructs a 'reality' from the world around us. This construction is easier to trick than you might think (there are some great episodes of the childrens science show Bang goes the Theory which deal with this) and we can also manipulate it to a degree.
The visionaries and religious ecstatics and all the wide range of strange religious and spiritual experiences aren't made up - they just have a more rational (and more interesting) explanation.
Elly - you are talking about awareness of those things, rather than those things directly. Meditation, especially the vipissana 'flavour' is often about focusing our attention and paying attention to things we can ignore. This can of course can also be done, more crudely, with chemicals: hallucinogens or modern stimulants like modafinal
An interesting place to look at what the brain is like are the writings of Oliver Sacks - by studying the malfunctioning we begin to see what the parts all do.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on atheism. I think you do miss out one possible position somewher between "atheism" and "faith", and that is the "tribal fellow-traveller" which is where I find myself. In "The God Delusion" Dawkins accepted that many people find taking part in communal events, such as acts of public worship, comforting and uplifting. People enjoyed feeling they were part of a group or community (or "tribe") with its own customs and practices, events and songs.
My wife doesn't let me sing around the house, so I continue to attend my local place of worship where I can sing with gusto, even though I left "God" behind many years ago. In doing so I belong to a community with its own history and tradition, but I have redefined my membership of it in my own way.
I have meditated thanks. And also read Oliver Sacks. And also decided that I am more than my 'brain' (or less than).
Atheism often is tinged with arrogance I find. And I say that as quite an arrogant atheist.
Imagine our world today if someone had said "No, keep him nailed up there until the birds have picked his bones bare". Just like every other crucifiction really.
Jonathan B- why ever does your wife not allow you to sing around the house? That sounds really sad!
David
I can reveal for the first time here that Mouse was, until early my early 20s an atheist, and would have agreed with pretty much everything you have said above.
I still agree that I don't need to believe in a creator God to see wonder and marvel in the world, and you don't need God to be good. These seem to me to be simple common sense, and I actually think few Christians would disagree.
I do, however, disagree with a couple of things in your post.
Firstly, your definition of faith as belief in something where there is no evidence, or the evidence is contradictory. This is certainly not what we mean most times we use the phrase - e.g. when we ask if people have faith in politics or faith in the police or faith in the education system.
The tradition Christian view of faith (from the Bible) is that it is "confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see." From where Mouse sits, it is evidence which provides that confidence and assurance. I can see no other reason to have assurance about anything other than blind optimism.
I agree with you that evidence of the historical claims of Christianity is the key. And from Mouse's perspective the evidence is overwhelming.
It comes in many forms - not just the kind of historical documentary evidence of the kind you speak (although that is incredibly strong for a largely illiterate society in the first century, and is referenced by pagan, Jewish, Greek and Roman historians as well as a large number of contemporary and near contemporary Biblical sources), but also by a whole range of other kinds of evidence and sources.
What I find puzzling in some sceptic atheists is not their insistence on evidence, but their refusal to accept evidence when it is presented to them. If this approach was adopted in a scientific context, we would never make any advances.
Overall, thanks for posting this. Solid ground for some useful discussions, I hope.
The Church Mouse:
I find all of your definitions of faith to be entirely compatible with David's. Take for example faith in the school or police. What we really have faith in is that the school system or the police system works. Have any of us Joe Public's really looked at any evidence? So where do we get our belief that they work from? Second hand news, media reports, word of mouth? What's so different between that and faith in a religious context?
And what's the difference between that and "confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see?" We don't see the inner workings of the school system, the police, or God (if it exists), and yet faith in the system would seem to imply that we're confident that they're doing the right thing, they're carrying out what we hope they should.
I see that Elizabeth Miles has already pretty much articulated my view of belief and Christianity.
For me, God is mainly a source of inner strength and love, the source of the "inner light" that Quakers speak of, and my faith is the link to this source. I can experience this connection, but I cannot prove it. I dislike "God of the Gaps" theology, because science is - quite rightly - narrowing those gaps day by day, and uncovering wonders in the process.
All the historical evidence I require for my Christianity is evidence that Jesus of Nazareth probably existed, and that he probably said the things that are my reason for wanting to follow his example. But then, my definition of "Christian" includes people who try to follow Jesus of Nazareth's teachings - no belief in a resurrection necessary.
Great post. A bit about "ME" if anyone's interested, as we all probably should be in one another whatever our views, intellectual or spiritual traditions.
As an anti-reductionist atheist I'm as infuriated by the dogma of Dawkins et al as by religious mumbo-jumbo and prefer to see all human endeavour, intellectual and spiritual, as equally valid.
If honest, I am anti-religious - or more particularly - purely because of cultural exposure - anti-Christian but try hard to remain respectful.
Surely it's not hard to understand a religious perspective if you've ever held a new-born child in your arms...or may be ingested a psychedelic ergot...though probably not at the same time. That would be irresponsible.
Nick
I am such an Atheist, I didn't even notice it was Easter.
To not believe in gods because they are just a human construct is irrational. Everything we know about the world is a human construct. It cannot be anything else, since all knowledge is mediated through the use of signs and symbol systems that are humanly constructed, above all through language. What one "knows" about the world as a French speaker or a German speaker, for instance, is a little different from what one "knows" as an English speaker, even though all three languages are closely related and arise out of a shared historical experience. An engineer "knows" the world differently from the way a chemist "knows" it.
If one thinks of religion as a descriptive system of signs and symbols, the question that then arises is how well they map to one's experience. Or not. From that point one must judge by results and one's own experience. They don't all look pretty and most seem to have persistent flaws, but do they or do they not reflect a reality?
Fiona Hanley: When you meditate, you are actively motivating growth in your brain. You use neural circuits which you may or may not use more or less in every day life. In the case of mindful meditation (of which thoughtful prayer may well be), it is more likely that you will be using pathways that you have neglected.
It has been suggested that meditation has an effect on the neural structures involved in attention. So, one explanation for the "spiritual" effects of prayer and/or meditation is that you are activating and growing your brain's attentional structures.
The cardio-respiratory changes which occur with meditation also have an effect.
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.95.260&rep=rep1&type=pdf
Studying consciousness and thus the effects of meditation upon it is pretty tricky however, and psychological and physiological studies are thus harder to come across.
My understanding and my own personal hypothesis: Everything you perceive is a delayed representation of electrical signals in your brain. Libet's experiment (http://www.consciousentities.com/libet.htm) shows how we make decisions 200ms before we're even consciously aware of making them. When we meditate, we are shortening this time. That's my totally unsupported guess at what happens anyway.
I am agnostic. I do not believe in religion, dogma etc. I do not believe in creationism.
I do believe in living your life in a "Christian" way; except for the bigoted/sexist/homophobic parts. Perhaps in a humanist way.
I am not so narrow-minded as to believe that everything that cannot be rationally explained by scientific reasoning does not exist. Just because there is no evidence of God does not mean one doesn't exist. We may not have found the evidence yet.
Anything is possible in an infinite universe.
I have heard so many atheists dismiss others in a derogatory, rude and insulting way (usually portraying them as imbecilic) because what they believe cannot be explained by ordinary scientific methods. This makes them no better than those followers of religion who dismiss the "unbelievers".
I've been an atheist since I was a teenager. I studied physics, and this surely not unconnected. To my mind it seemed that the natural sciences were so much more successful at explaining the world I saw than the succession of implausible stories that came from the Bible (old and new testament).
As somebody who studied the natural sciences I have (what I believe) is healthy scepticism human records. Whatever Church Mouse says the evidence for much of what is in the Bible is thin indeed. When it comes to ancient records, then this must be subject to a degree of independent architectural evidence. The Old Testament is at odds with the physical evidence available. Whilst Christianity is only partly based on the Old Testament, the New Testament is not exactly full of events which can be independently tested using archaeology. The New Testament was produced from a series of stories recorded after the events from a series of competing sources.
There is also a contradiction in the idea of being able to prove a God exists. As I understand it, in Christian theology, any demand by humans for God to prove his existence is doomed to failure. In consequence, the very idea that there would be strong evidential matter showing this is doomed will fail.
On a more generalised note, then there are many who would argue that many religions are really worshipping the same entity. Certainly those religions based on the Abrahamic tradition and, arguably, those others that are overtly, or can be reduced to, monotheism. Of course then what all those religious theological differences will boil down to is variations in the practices of dealing with, and the relationship of the adherents, to this entity. So all the arguments about whether you eat pork, cut your hair (or your foreskin), eat fish on Fridays, have intermediate priests or take the DIY approach all just look very much like the sort of social bickering that humans are so good at. The evidence that these behavioural differences, and the whole structure of religions is simply a manifestation of the nature of human society is overwhelming.
I agree with you on just about everything you've said. I suppose I am slightly more militant than you, in that I believe religion to be a divisive force, and while individuals do indeed receive comfort from their faith, on a macro scale it is more destructive than positive.
I've always thought the old pagan religions made rather more sense than the newer ones. Worshiping the sun makes sense, it provides all our energy. Gods of the seas and harvest make sense, they provide all our food... The Christian god of creation with the power to intervene to stop atrocities, who chooses not to? Well, even if there were evidence for that kind of deity, I'd want to have a chat with him about his complete lack of conscience before I would ever praise him.
"Everything you perceive is a delayed representation of electrical signals in your brain"
Yes and you can same about the contents of a computer's memory. But the same pattern of ones and zeros may not mean the same thing - it depends on the operating system, the application, its context, etc.
It would be surprising if "spiritual" experiences did not produce detectable changes in neural activity. What really matters is how this neural activity is interpreted and what it means for the individual who is experiencing it.
You can tickle your endorphin receptors in many different ways - they are still different experiences with different meanings even though the chemical changes are much the same.
Chemical and physical changes do not create meanings. It takes a symbol system to do that.
I agree with most of what you say, but I do find the idea of other people 'praying' for me to be problematic.
At a simple level, I try and acknowledge it as kindly-meant. However, I'm not sure it's particularly kind for someone who supposedly cares about me to reveal that they haven't listened to me & don't respect my thoughts.
At a deeper level, I find it equivalent to a promise to masturbate about me. *In the right context*, actually quite exciting, but mostly a bit scary and arguably intimidating, and rather insulting that someone is using my misfortune to achieve their own pleasure
I am an atheist and meditation does nothing for me (imperfect neural pathways perhaps!) but I too can look with awe at the world and universe around me and, at times, feel a sense of complete connection with that universe.
No one has the right to tell me that what i feel is incorrect just as I have no right to tell them the same.
Interesting post. Thanks for sharing. A couple of thoughts in response, though..
The old quip that atheists just believe in one less God and that it's basically roundable to zero misses the important distinction that Christians don't reject the other gods for the same reason as you appear to reject all gods. It seems to me as misguided as to say that a homosexual man 'rejects' just one less woman than a married heterosexual - their reason for not having relations with all the other women is not the same. You seem to think that the whole idea of gods is unconvincing, where as Christians accept the supernatural, but think there is only one true God. Imagine a husband telling his wife that 2 women is basically roundable to 1.
I also think you're tending to confuse two different kinds of explanation. Understanding the mechanics of something (e.g. evolution) does not render a causal agent redundant. Understanding how a combustion engine works doesn't do away with Nicolai Otto.
I don't agree that postulating a supernatural causal agent leads to dead ends and narrowing horizons, but rather agree with Newton and Bacon that if the universe is the product of a rationally intelligent mind than we can explore it with confidence that it will be rationally intelligible.
As it happens, I do occasionally wonder if atheism is true and look at the world while I do it, but I'm always left with thinks like beauty and justice and the rational intelligence of the universe, which I can see no good basis for in atheistic naturalism.
I agree there is a 'leap of faith' but I think the Christian definition of faith is trust in someone, because of the evidence and reason to do so. Whenever you trust someone, you make a leap of faith, as you cannot empirically prove that they will do what you trust them to do, but it is nevertheless, based on reason and experience and evidence.
Just a note that some of the atheist comment here on meditation etc seem to me to be reductionist in just the manner I find so infuriating.
"Electrical signals in the brain"...so what? Human Consciousness is the greatest mystery in the Universe (= God to the religious?) and even if you accept the objectifying power of the scientific method - as an atheist I do - I rather feel that the reductionist claims of science where that mystery is concerned, are like trying to bite your own teeth!
For an exhilarating scientific and philosophical exploration I can't recommend highly enough The Mind of God: Science and the Search for Ultimate Meaning by Paul Davies - makes Dawkins look like a sixth form essayist ;-)
Great post David. For what it is worth, my completely unoriginal contribution is that I think that religion only came about because of our fear of death.
I would love to believe that I would meet my Dad again. Even though, as a very militant atheist, he would have been absolutely furious to think that his life was subject to a celestial being.
I love this thoughtful post and its comments. Many thanks for the considered and patient answers to my comment. I expected a hammering, or at least an assumption of mild idiocy in response to admitting interest in the spiritual, and worse, with typos.
David and anyone else who is interested in the Gospels as a philosophical text, 'The Sermon on the Mount according to Vedanta' by Swami Prabhavananda is a good accompanying read.
AllanW, I'm sure you're right though interestingly, it's getting the brain to stop working that's the tricky part. Descartes proved his own reality with 'I think, therefore I am'. By accident or design, it was a neat juxtaposition of 'Be Still, and know that I am God', ie: it is only by stilling this bucking bronco of a human brain that we, according to the faithful, become one with God.
Belief in God is not like belief in Santa Claus or fairies, nor is it simply a wholesale swallowing of implausible dogma. Deep prayer or meditation specifically induces an almost over-whelming sense of being loved, of being held by something infinitely compassionate. It's visceral and very real, and a deeply moving experience. Personally I don't believe it's a supernatural thing and am happy to put it down to the mystery and miracle of human consciousness. But this is what people are talking about when they talk about God. Yes, if you haven't tried it, it is implausible but hell's bells, fine wine is implausible, orgasm is implausible. Without in any way denigrating the importance and value of scientific evidence, there's no evidence quite like the evidence of one's own experience. I suppose by definition this is absent from atheist discourse but it was disappointing that the man who brought us 'The Ancestor's Tale' (!!!!) barely acknowledged it, preferring to take potshots at the shallower waters of virgin birth, reiki crystals and bigotry in 'The God Delusion'.
I'd love if all atheist comment could be as compassionate, considered and tolerant as David's lovely essay on Easter Sunday. I'd love, LOVE if religious teaching was no more prescriptive than 'Look, this spirituality thing is part of life's rich gift, along with homemade Victorian sponge, Beethoven's Unfinished Symphony, Yeats, pina coladas, getting caught in the rain etc. Take it, leave it, whatevs and ps you are in a hell of your own making if you expect forgiveness without being properly sorry first, pps it's a big ask but treat others as you hope to be treated.' Uh huh, let's not hold our breath.
In the meantime, it's ok if atheist argument gets arrogant, angry or vicious. Please do. Anyone who has the stomach for it should read the Ryan and Murphy reports and bear witness to the abuse of children by Irish religious orders. Observe the continued obfuscation and resistance of justice by the Vatican (re: the earlier point about forgiveness). Atheists, keep fighting the good fight, loving your work.
Do we have a definition of "god" that isn't a complete strawman? I can't say whether or not I believe in one (or more) without it....
David wrote:
"I disbelieve in all the gods I could have ever encounter; the monotheist believes the same, but with one exception."
I have seen sentiments like this recently, and I think they show a simple misunderstanding of monotheism. As somebody who believes in God, I don't utterly reject all of the gods of faiths other than mine. Rather, I accept that all believers in a god or gods have different and incomplete views; we are only human, after all.
So I understand other religious people's sincerely-held views that God may be best described as multiple personalities or beings, or ascribed a different personality to the one I think of.
Rejecting all possibility of the existence of a creator is not the same at all is certainly not a "rounding error" from monotheism!
One final question for those who reject the possibility of a creator by pointing out that organisms arise from the rules of evolution, and our solar system arises from the laws of physics: where do the rules themselves come from?
Oh dear Patrick.
"One final question for those who reject the possibility of a creator ..."
Please try to read for comprehension rather than prejudice confirmation. David makes it explicit in the article, we don't reject the possibility. We have examined the evidence and remain unconvinced.
So just present the evidence you find so compelling but be aware that any claims for more than a deist creator involve intervention into our physical universe and therefore scientific principles which can be tested.
While on the subject of contradictory and unverifiable accounts of the crucifixion, you might want to consider Matthew 27:52-53 " And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many."
It's quite surprising that an event such as that wasn't well documented elsewhere.
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